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On certain files (not all) in my repository, when I do an rtag using an existing tag name, I get the message "There is no revision here..." It was my understanding that rtag is not supposed to require a checked out copy, and therefore should work in this case... Basicly, I am going through my repository and redoing all the tag names. The convert from source safe left them in an undesired state. I fixed the problem by doing cvs rlog -h and grabbing the revision number and using it instead of the old tag name, and all is well, but it seemed like a bit of a bug, to me at least... keith d. zimmerman, mcsd eagle solutions