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If I try to use "cvs -q chacls" or "cvs -q lsacl", I get "invalid option" but the option listed as invalid is some odd character, likely not used in the input string to really confuse me, like "ä" or "6". Example session: C:\temp\junk\test>cvs -q chacl -R default:rwc chacl: invalid option -- 6 Usage: cvs chacl -R [-r tag] {user|default}:[{[r][w][c]|[n]}] [directory...] -R Recursively set permissions -r Set permissions on specific branch C:\temp\junk\test>cvs version Client: Concurrent Versions System (CVSNT) 2.0.8 (client/server) Server: Concurrent Versions System (CVSNT) 2.0.11 (client/server) (happens on 2.0.11 cli/svr as well). Regards, Glen Starrett