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I've discovered (through trying to get Tortoise to work) that if I try using CVSNT with the -x flag it hangs. It doesn't crash or go unresponsive- if I do ctrl-c I get the standard cvs [update aborted]: received interrupt signal so it's doing something, but I've left one sitting there for 10 minutes or so without it actually doing anything. If I try and retrieve a file without -x then it works within a second or so. The client and server are on XP machines, distant from each other. A firewall's in the way but not on either the client or the server machine. I opened the one port that seemed to be required, which since unencrypted updates are fine seems OK. I've tried various builds of 1.11.1.3, all with the same result. I came across what looks to be a similar problem in December; Jerzy Kaczorowski, subject "SSPI encryption not working". I can't confirm the server side crashing (wouldn't that bring the server down, so subsequent unencrypted transactions failed to connect? I don't see that happening) but otherwise it looks the same. Has any progress been made yet on this? -- Dr. Craig Graham, Software Engineer Advanced Analysis and Integration Limited, UK. http://www.aail.co.uk/