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Hello Tony, I just updated the unix sources and now my access to sourceforge is broken: ---> rich at mathilda:~/gnome_dev/cvsgui> cvs version Client: Concurrent Versions System (CVSNT) 1.11.1.3 Prerelease (Build 66) (client/server) Server: cvs [version aborted]: unrecognized auth response from cvs.cvsgui.sourceforge.net: cvs [pserver aborted]: descramble: unknown scrambling method <--- against cvsnt.org all works well --> rich at mathilda:~/dev_cvs/cvsnt> cvs version Client: Concurrent Versions System (CVSNT) 1.11.1.3 Prerelease (Build 66) (client/server) Server: Concurrent Versions System (CVSNT) 1.11.1.3 (Daily Snapshot Build 63) (client/server) <-- the cvs from gcvs project is working: --> rich at mathilda:~/gnome_dev/cvsgui> /usr/local/gcvs/bin/cvs version Client: Concurrent Versions System (CVS) 1.11 (client/server) Server: Concurrent Versions System (CVS) 1.11.1p1 (client/server) <-- any idea? best regards richard