[cvsnt] Edit in offline mode

Wed Jul 2 21:27:01 BST 2003

    I am understand that for some reasons and projects the offline
edit/unedit can be dangerous and unwanted behavior. Since it will impossible
 to know is file now edited or not.
     But in the same time, well known, that cvs pretty well work via low
 bandwidth connection (just the simple modem), and there many guys that use
 it to work both at work and at home. Also known that with dialup connection
 you need pay for time, so it is important to be online only for the small
 time, only to update and commit commands. And exactly from this point it is
 important to make edit\unedit in online.
     It is absolutely clear that I can start modify file without
edit\unedit,
 just making it writable. And I can later successfully commit this file, but
 I cannot unedit it.
     And the most important that the default CVS behavior allows offline
edit
 and unedit, and more other this is explicetly described in documentation.
     For me this is not so important, but I am author of SCC integration
tool
 (www.pushok.com) and I have many requests from users, that slightly
 surprised that offline edit\unedit not work.
     Once again it is possible to make simple file writable, but for me this
 is more dangerous that offline edit\unedit.
     So may be possible to return back default behavior and make current
 behavior controlled via some option? For example for edit -c I think normal
 behavior is fails in offline, but simple edit should work, I think.

 Igor Pushkov


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Erv Walter" <erv at epicsystems.com>
> To: "pushok" <contact at pushok.com>; <cvsnt at cvsnt.org cvsnt downloads at march-hare.com @CVSNT on Twitter CVSNT on Facebook>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:17 PM
> Subject: RE: [cvsnt] Edit in offline mode
>
>
> Hmm.  I can see your point.
>
> If anything is done, Tony, please make it configurable.  At my
> organization, I don't want anyone to be able to do cvs edit in offline
> mode.  The server needs to know about all edits because the list of who
> is editing files is a key part of the tools that we use to keep
> communication flowing.  For example, we have a little wrapper that
> presents the "cvs editors" information in a nice UI.  We also take
> advantage of the fact that cvs.exe will warn you when you edit a file if
> someone else is already editing it (you can then go talk to them and
> make sure you guys are playing nice).  If people could do offline edits,
> then the server could potentially have an inaccurate list of who is
> editing what files.  That would not be good for us.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pushok [mailto:contact at pushok.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 1:39 PM
> To: cvsnt at cvsnt.org cvsnt downloads at march-hare.com @CVSNT on Twitter CVSNT on Facebook
> Subject: [cvsnt] Edit in offline mode
>
> Hello,
>
>     could somebody explain why the cvs.exe from cvsnt project cannot
> perform cvs edit or unedit command in offline mode? The basic unix
> implementation can make this without problem, it reports that it is not
> possible connect to the server, but it makes file writeable and moved it
> into cvs/base folder. So the unedit comand also can be applied in
> offline.
>     Why this behavior changed? Is there any ways to have the same
> behavior on CVSNT?
>     For me, working in offline is very important feature of cvs, and
> current behavior of CVS.exe from CVS NT, make this impossible.
>
> Thank you,
> Igor Pushkov
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