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Glen Starrett wrote: > Much better now. My old sandbox is still borked, getting strange errors > the first time I try to update. Tortoise reports it as a certificate > error (same error as pasted in my original post), command line reports I don't think Tortoise ships with a ca.pem so it can't validate the certificates. > it as "Obsolete 'V' tag in sandbox". Not sure if it's significant, I'll That went away a while ago... I went through a phase of using 'V' in the tags to specify a directory version but it only lasted a few days. I don't think a version was ever released that created them. Tony