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Please forgive me if this information can be found elsewhere - I googled but couldn't find anything relevant to my configuration. After creating a new module (about 3-4000 files, not all of them very big), and with a cvs watch on the whole module so that that they co read-only and all of the files add with -kb, whenever I checkout the files locally I get the response cvs checkout: cannot set time on [whatever.txt] : Permission denied The cvs server is 2.051a and client 2.051d Incidentally the reason we are not on a later version is that we use the PushOK devstudio integration which currently only supports this version of cvsnt - I think soon they'll be on 2.058 though... Obviously one solution is to not co read-only. Our reason for this is that we want to enforce exclusive locks on these files - many of them really are unmergeable and having then read-only makes it quick for our tools to tell if a file is edited or not - waiting to do parse the results of a cvs edit on all the files would take too long (unless there is a quicker way ?) We don't get this problem with source code by the way ... Thanks Rob