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it INSISTS on trying to write files like .#2664 in my cvsroot subdirectory whenever I try to update config, cvsignore, cvswrappers which then aborts and the "administration" files don't get updated and I canNOT properly use the repository. Any help would be appreciated. Apparently when I updated originally, I managed to change one of the two repositories on my system, but not the other, but no amount of lying to the system (copying the cvsignore and .#cvsignore and cvsignore,v from one repository to the other, then rebooting the system will fix the lock problem (of course I copied the config, .#config and config,v too) help!! Victor A. Wagner Jr. http://rudbek.com The five most dangerous words in the English language: "There oughta be a law"