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Hey -- I'm impressed. I just tried out the directions in Bo's installation tips and guess what! It worked! $ /cygdrive/c/Program\ Files/cvsnt/cvs -d:ssh:Sieglinde at 192.168.0.201:/CVSSermonClips login $ /cygdrive/c/Program\ Files/cvsnt/cvs -d:ssh:Sieglinde at 192.168.0.201:/CVSSermonClips ls -R However, I got some strange messages from ssh concerning security. Unfortunately, it scrolled off my Cygwin session so I cannot quote it exactly. It was something about not being sure that 192.168.0.201 was the computer I thought it was and there was no key and did I want to try it just this once or trust it in the future etc... Where can I read more about this? Whose implementation of ssh are we using here? Am I using the ssh that comes with Cygwin or an implementation built into cvsnt? I have both the Cygwin ssh and the cvsnt installed on both machines. I thought I had to install ssh before I could use it with cvsnt. Now I wish I had tried ssh before installing the Cygwin sshd server so I would know which software was doing the work. I also noticed that it did not work with the Siegfried account -- perhaps because there was a zero length password? But my daughter's account worked. Apparently both SSH and CVSNT are using NT accounts. (Cygwin also has a /etc/password file and if cvsnt was using the Cygwin ssh). I guess the problem is that there is no verisign certificate server. Is there anyway to be sure that the computer is the computer I think it is without paying for ssl? Now there was an earlier email message about how someone had broken ssh1 but not ssh. I guess I'm using ssh so that means I'm using a cipher that no one has broken yet? I already posted a query concerning Bo's installation tips and absence of documentation of ext and CVS_RSH. No response yet. Thanks, Siegfried