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A number of the files in CVSROOT have ,v files, which makes it seem that they should be edited by checkout and commit. When I do an update, I get back a response of "M" and don't any changes in my copy or the server copy. I am listed in the CVSROOT/admin file. Should I be editing "group" in a sandbox, and commiting changes? Or is it a direct edit file like "admin"? ---- "If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses" (Henry Ford ) Kevin w. 200.3268 (614.716.3268) c. 614.507.6423