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Charles, > It is a relic from RCS days. Never made any sense in CVS. Its what I suspected (from reading between the lines), so thanks for the clarification. Tony, if nobody uses state (apart from cvsnt internally to mark files dead/Exp) do you want to drop -s <state> from cvs admin? I know, it goes against the grain to *remove* functionality instead of adding it ;-) Greetings, David