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Yes. The are. There are some scripts to work with cvs (which hide some difficulties of cvs from people) and special util to export/import objects from powerbuilder libraries from/to sandbox. Users work whith sandbox and so do: check out, edit, unedit, commit etc. They use that util in scripts. But that scripts don't know which files will be saved to sandbox, so they can not reserve changed file before it's work, and after it's work files are already changed... it is late :-( BB> You cannot use "another program" to put files under cvs control into a BB> sandbox! All such files must be checked out or created by update via cvs. BB> /Bo BB> Dear all, BB> When i work in a branch i usually get missing files from a main trunc BB> with 'cvs update -f'. When i want to make some changes an save then in BB> a current branch i do 'cvs edit', edit, 'cvs commit -r branch ' and BB> receave: BB> cvs server: Up-to-date check failed for `d_event_list.srd' BB> cvs [server aborted]: correct above errors first! BB> cvs commit: saving log message in D:\Temp\cvs194.tmp BB> Is this a bug or a feature? My problem is that i upload files into BB> sandbox by an other program and can't know what files are changed or BB> not until this program save them to sandbox. And this is not good when BB> we split all files into branch just in case. Or is it good? -- Best regards, Vladimir mailto:vab at borlas.ru