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"Torsten Martinsen" <torsten at vip.cybercity.dk> schreef in bericht news:mailman.77.1154811535.2445.cvsnt at cvsnt.org... > patrick goovaerts wrote: > >>Currently i'm investigating the use of CVSNT for our IT/dept. Our IT/Dept >>includes 5 developers which are integrated in a seperate company, acting >>as a 'Back-Office' for the 7 companies in our Group. The develpers have >>no specific role (java-programmer, web-developer, graphical designer,...). >>They have there own projects to work with and these projects can be >>RPGIV-Java-Web-...based. (no version control needed!) > I don't believe you. IMHO, version control is an integral part of any > serious software (etc.) project. > I agree, Version Control SHOULD be an integral part of any software project. But in the 'real world' IT/Teams cannot always follow the route they would like. My experience (12 years in one company, 6 years in the current) with Company's own inside-IT-Teams (no development for other companies) is that there's little or no Version Control used, nor is there any 'role based development'. We develop and bugfix 'on demand' and programs need to be created 'on-the-fly'. The only version control we use is making a copy of the current program, put it a-side and update the program. In case of total mess-up we can recover from the copy... Yes, we see advantages of using Version Control but you have to realize that we have thousands of programs running (batch + interactive) which are created the last 35 year... Maybe, just maybe, we can change this now because we are trying to convince the employees to move from 'green screen ' to GUI Java/Web based applications. However, they ask us why they should, their applications run without problems, the have a great IT/Team which fix-on-demand and they feel no need for GUI-apps which are not half as fast as their current 'green-screen' apps... Which creates yet another discussion. I don't want to misuse this forum for this kind of discussions but it must be said: The real world is not alway's acting by the rules and I'm sure there are many companies working like us.