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hi, Let's assume the repository looks like this: .+Root .| .|----+Docs ........| ........|-----Specs ........| ........|-----Agreements .| .|--Sources .| .|--SQL I have two groups of CVS users: managers and developers. For managers I want to set the full access to the repository, but for developers only the read access to Docs but _NO ACCESS_ to Agreements. I used NT permissions on the directory level, set the lockDir outside and read only access to Specs and that works ok. But if I revoke all rights to Agreements for usergroup developers, when a developer does a full update on Root it stops on Agreements with the following message: cvs server: cannot open <my repository>/Agreements/CVS/Tag: Permission denied cvs [server aborted]: Couldn't open RCS file <my repository>/Agreements/.directory_history,v: Permission denied please advice on this Cyril