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Tim Chippington Derrick wrote: > I do > know that CVSNT can do diffs on binary files too - it's just that I > never yet found them to be very much use. Just to clarify for those who might get confused reading this thread, I sense some conflicting uses of the term 'diff': The diffs on binary files that the server does using -kB (binary deltas) is not the same as a "cvs diff" operation. You can _not_ do a "cvs diff" against binary files to see the differences (but see below...). You _can_ use the -kB keyword to store the binary files more efficiently, and therefore reduce the size of your RCS files (binary ones anyway) within your repository. > I am really only interested in the text itself and what it means, > and the format and layout are almost irrelevant other than to make it > easier for humans to read. But the doc formats are such that the text > changes often get swamped and hidden by the foggy mush of binary > formatting stuff, fonts, images etc. that is mixed in and around it. With CVS Suite, you _can_ view the textual differences between two version of Word, Excel, and Powerpoint files. CVS Suite contains WinMerge, which also has some add-in diff DLLs to do just that -- it shows the textual differences between Word, Excel, and Powerpoint documents. This is what I was describing above. >> > file formats that effectively cripple virtually any serious attempt >> to do >> > proper version management. >> >> Again, not true. It's a proprietary format, that's true, and complex >> enough >> to allow for merging without its own editor. You would not be able to >> merge >> a complex document even if it was in a open XML standard, without >> something >> that can understand the format. Source code is far easier to manage. > For merging, you absolutely do need to use the native Word merge functions. The XML MS outputs is .... ummm .... "undesirable" for merging. Regards, -- Glen Starrett Technical Account Manager, North America March Hare Software, LLC http://march-hare.com/cvspro/