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Kevin, This has been asked about plenty of times in the past - did you search the newsgroups? > One of our users downloaded and went to work with Tortoise 1.10, and > Tortoise defaulted to setting exclusive locking for him. Download the latest TortoiseCVS - I believe this is fixed - but if not contact the TortoiseCVS newsgroup. > hand edit the ,v files to say: Never ever ever manually edit the ,v files. Maybe we should actually make them all hidden? > way to do the job. Can I safely use cvs admin -kb to take off > the -kbx > option? You should avoid using 'cvs admin' commands at all times - there is ALWAYS a better way than using the admin command. My personal favourite coding option to fix this is to replace the entire 'admin.cpp' with printf("ignoring user command since user hasn't thought about it enough."); Just checkout the files, then 'cvs up -k-x' then 'cvs ci -f -m "remove excl"'. > And will that fix the permissions 444 issue? And do the > permissions really matter? Don't worry about it until it actually causes a problem. http://customer.march-hare.com/webtools/bugzilla/ttshow_bug.cgi?id=4732 Regards, Arthur Barrett