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Courtenay, > it looks to me like we have it As I wrote - it appears to be a bug in HPUX or that edition of the KRB5 package that HPUX considers that HPUX 11.23 on PA-Risc needs the IPF shared libraries for the package to be 'complete'. See the following web site and particularly the bit under "Patch and Software Package Requirements for HPUX 11i v2": http://docs.hp.com/en/J4258-90048/ch02s01.html > but at any rate what is the gserver? how do I run cvsnt without it? Gserver/GSSAPI is one of several connection methods, if you havn't heard of it you probably don't need it, most people with an hpux server or client will use :ext: (ssh) or :pserver: connection methods: http://www.cvsnt.org/manual/html/Remote-repositories.html I'm a little confused because you were initially talking to the sales team, but these are questions about the 'free' edition. The commercial edition comes with comprehensive documentation and support and optionally training and installation. I got involved in the open source discussion since we are building packages of the latest 2.5.04 builds on all platforms and this was a good opportunity to check that the depot was working correctly since there are not as many HPUX users as there are windows and linux users. Open Source community generally answer 'usage' and 'setup' questions with the various 'free' resources available: http://www.march-hare.com/cvspro/faq/faq2.asp#2z Please contact Glen or sales directly if you require pre-sales support or quotes. Regards, Arthur Barrett